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Published on April 20th, 2012 | by Jack Murphy

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Jack Murphy’s Special Forces Weapons Sergeant Loadout

-M4 w/EO Tech, LA-5, Pentagon Light, Magpul stock, SOPMOD foregrip

-6x additional 5.56 magazines

-M9 pistol

-Safariland drop holster

-Sordins

-4x additional 9mm magazines

-Mossburg 500 12-guage shotgun

-Approx. 12 additional 12-guage rounds

-MICH helmet

-PVS-14′s

-5x Flashbangs

-1x Fragmentation grenade

-MBITR radio

-Flexcuffs

-Merrill boots

-Penflare gun and flares

-spare batteries

-Camelbak

-Platecarrier w/ sideplates

-pistol belt w/E&E kit (small knife, blood chit, compass, signal scarf, IR chemstick spinner, red light LED, survival tin)

-translation cards, calculator, pen, paper in Admin pouch

-Thermite grenade

-ATS medical pouch (tourniquet, curlex, Israeli dressing, pill pack, needle and seal for tension pneumothorax procedure)

-Surefire helmet light

-Oakley M-Frames

-Maxpedition dump pouch

-Usually we wore Multi-Cam but transitioned to Iraqi MARPAT knockoffs to blend it with our FID force.  I’d wear some of my own stuff just to mess with my Team Sergeant though!

As the deployment wore on I dropped a lot of the crap and just started wearing concealable body armor and a HSGI warlord chestrig.  Whatever you can get away with…



40 comments
MerkMan
MerkMan

just what are thermite grenades used for

 

chris16
chris16

always gotta be styling in the Oakleys 

Aaron Halam
Aaron Halam

After (1) tour in Iraq, (3) tours in the Stan, and the final one being my final one I was injured, IED, helo crash.......finished my career.......I have to ask you guys, coming home I bought a S &W M&P 15, as a trophy for the end of my 30 years of service, aok as well as a Para .45..................how are you guys mounting the EOTech on the flat top, that allows you to see over the front tower (Sight post)?.........I had a great armoror who put a gas block on my issued M-4........thanks for any intelligent answers......

Tango9
Tango9 moderator

Thermite grenade for SHTF?  i.e. bug out and destroy stuff you can't carry?

FormerSFMedic
FormerSFMedic moderator

That armor setup is the way to go. I ran a slimline cancealable armor vest with a Blackhawk chest rig for almost my entire time in Afghanistan and it worked great. Even with the soft armor integrated into the armor it was still less bulky than any full armor assault vest.

Sharon Friedman
Sharon Friedman

Hi Jack.

Was there any use of night scopes  or did you rely on lighting and the close range of urban operations to negate the need ?

I myself feel they are a game changer especially with night operations being ninety percent of direct action work.

Connor31
Connor31

What's with the flare gun and why the M9?!?!

Robertkyle
Robertkyle

 @Coriolis effect Initiating primary/secondary explosions, destroying caches in a hurry, destroying any IED's you find without using up your primary burn explosives (C4) or calling EOD, disabling just about anything that is mechanical ie. Engine blocks, and just about anything else your imagine can conjure up.  Its a burn explosive. We used them for a lot of things but typically it was used to destroy a cache or initial anything we came across (I was an 18c).  Hope this helps.  

Connor31
Connor31

 @Aaron Halam The only solution would be to remove the fixed front sight and put on a flip up. The LT110 is not compatible with the 7mm raised base EOtechs.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @GageReckart Yeah, that's the one!  Good uniform.  The light weight fabric was very much appreciated in the summer!

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @Tango9 or maybe to destroy sigint gear, code pads and maps?  If there's an operational use, it would be fun to hear about it.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @FormerSFMedic Defintely, concealable body armor and a Mayflower UW rig is the way to go.  Sadly, there are a lot of vaginas who get bent out of shape if they see you roll outside the wire like that.  They think you need that CIRAS crap in case you fall in the water or you get shot and your medic needs to get it off.  First, there ain't hardly any water in Iraq, second, what 18D is going to take your body armor off during a firefight?!?!

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @Sharon Friedman  I listed PVS-14's.  If you mean scopes actually mounted on rifles, no not really.  We have them for sniper systems but normally we just use NODs and IR lasers.  We also had thermals that we'd use once and a while.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @ArcticWarrior Yeah, and it wasn't a short barrel 500...  The ISWAT guys had AK's and Glocks.  They had their own kit from the local market mostly and usually more knock off MARPAT uniforms.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @Connor. It's a pen-flare gun.  We had Glocks when we got into theater but limited magazines and no holsters for them.

Tango9
Tango9 moderator

 @katgirl231 As soon as I typed that I realized the answer:  burning vehicles.

Sharon Friedman
Sharon Friedman

 @JackMurphyRGR That is very interesting to read. We usually had at that time 4-6 nights copes per company, snipers not included. Now it is closer to a one per one ratio. It shows the different focus the armies have. Your comm systems are much better than ours.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @JackMurphyRGR What did you find to be the best way to carry the shotgun?  I've seen single point slings and even mounted on packs.

Will_In my own bubble
Will_In my own bubble

 @JackMurphyRGR A friend of mine said that they used mini flares as warning shots. However this was becoming less often as people use to muck about with them and several ND's with near misses resulted in them getting canned. Apparently the ANA loves mini flares........

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @GageReckart I don't think they are any more expensive than any other uniform you'd get from Propper or Tru-Spec...

Robertkyle
Robertkyle

 @Tango9  @JackMurphyRGR  @katgirl231 Funny story about that, most of those thermites are sort of in sketchy condition.  They are always noticeably worn, my theory is people take them with every where and never use them.  Then they return them.  We used one at least once a week I swear.  Jack was a bravo, I was a charlie so I guess it makes sense that I used it more.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @Tango9  @katgirl231 There was no specific reason.  I just wanted to set some shit on fire.  I was going to torch a small cache one time but the Iraqis talked me out of it!

Connor31
Connor31

 @JackMurphyRGR Agreed and lets not forget that the gear the Army procures to provide "safety" ends up being junk. They could at least buy some quality equipment given that safety is their highest concern. I'm referring mainly to the SPCS and IOTV.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

If safety is the #1 priority, as the Army beleives, than why do we go overseas in the first place?  Wouldn't we be safer in garrison?  Kind of makes you wonder about what's going through our "leaders" heads sometimes.

Robertkyle
Robertkyle

 @JackMurphyRGR  @ArcticWarrior  @FormerSFMedic Thats crazy man.  Its just hard to hear that, we had a ton of lead way.  I wore merrells, asolos, and even some horrible nike's.  The only thing that my team sergeant ever got bent out of shape over was any sort of morale patch, or using anything that he deemed to vagina eg. I tried to cut a ton of weight and wear a new rig that was noticeably smaller.  He nixed that quick

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @ArcticWarrior  @FormerSFMedic It all depends, some Groups/Battalions let their boys roll out however they need to.  What I saw in SF was more big Army than the big Army.  The 101st guys at Campbell had more leeway as to what boots they could wear than we did.

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @ArcticWarrior  @katgirl231 I had the shotgun holder that comes with the SFLICS on my pistol belt and had the shottie bungee corded under my armpit.  The SFLICS shotgun holder was a peice of garbage.  I broke mine and than broke the ones issued to two or three team mates before the deployment was over.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior I'd love to see that!  I'm always enhancing and enlarging photos to see how people carry their gear.  Any of you who can give me some ideas about how to carry an extra shotgun or mount it on my vest/carrier, I'd love to hear it: katgirl9999 at_sign gmail 'dot' com.  On the rare occasion I take my solo trip for night practice, I wouldn't mind having my Benelli accessible as well :)

JackMurphyRGR
JackMurphyRGR moderator

 @ArcticWarrior I think early on in the war there was some funding, but mostly that was for the commandos and such.  Our guys were outfitted via battlefield recovery.  They also had rail systems on their AK's with foregrips and tac-lites.  I heard that a SF team busted some ciggerette smugglers coming across the border from Syria, sold the smokes on the open market, and used the money to buy the kit for ISWAT.  That's just some RUMINT though.

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