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Published on May 20th, 2012 | by Uri

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The importance of layering

Layering is essential for maintaining core warmth, comfort and preventing weather related problems. It also helps if you want to go light: you can carry less and still have the ability to dress correctly for whatever is outside.

Layering allows you to build a tiny microclimate that surrounds your body and can be adapted to moisture, wind, temperature, and exertion. In it very basic form layering is divided as follow:

  • Base Layer: The inner-most layer. This layer is critical because it’s in direct contact with your skin.
  • Mid-Layer: Provides insulation and continues the transportation of moisture from the inner layer.
  • Outer Layer: Protects you from the elements and should allow air to circulate and excess moisture to escape.

These items must be synthetic since we want them to dry fast. Cotton and other natural fibers absorb water and take longer to dry. This may lead to hypothermia even when the temperature is not so cold.

Base layer

This layer is critical because it’s in direct contact with your skin. Base layers (sometimes referred as underwear) should transport moisture away from the skin and disperse it to the air or outer layers where it can evaporate. Because water is such a good heat conductor, wet clothing draws body heat away from you.

The best base layer materials are synthetics (polypropylene and polyester). These are light and strong, absorb very little water, and are quick to dry.

Base layers are available in light, medium, and heavy weights. Light layers suit aerobic activity where sweat dispersal is paramount. Midweight underwear provides moisture control and insulation for stop-and-go activities. Heavy layers are best in very cold conditions, or when you’re relatively inactive.

Here you have from left to right, a light base layer, a mid-weight one and a heavy, winter base layer.

 

 

 

Socks play a huge role in the base layer. Choosing the right weight and fabric is critical for keeping your feet warm or cool during extended periods. In the picture you have heavy weight alpine socks with its liners (for moisture wicking), a mid weight pair and an ultra light running pair, just to give you an example.

 

Mid-layer

The mid-layer provides insulation and continues the transportation of moisture from the inner layer and into the outer layer. To slow heat loss, this layer must be capable of retaining the warmth generated by your body. Wool and synthetics are well suited to this because the structure of the fibers creates small air spaces that trap molecules of warm air.

The layer’s thickness, as with the base layer, will vary by the temperature outside. A lighter mid layer is suited for a warmer day or a cold day with activities that are demanding (like climbing or nordic skiing); while a thicker layer works better on cold days with activities that are more static. Mid-layer items can become outer layers as well.

Light-weight mid-layers such as the Patagonia R1 collection are great for high output activities in moderate cold conditions or as an outer layer on cool days.

The heavier fleeces are great for colder temps or for activities where there are longer periods of inactivity, such as stop and go missions or while stalking.

Outer layer

The outer layer protects you from the elements and should allow air to circulate and excess moisture to escape. For dry conditions, a breathable wind proof shell or a soft shell may be all you need. If you expect conditions to be more severe, a waterproof hard-shell rain jacket might be the one needed. A shell made of a breathable and waterproof fabric, such as H2No or Gore-Tex, will protect you from wind and rain, and allow water vapor to escape.

A warning note: Waterproof breathable is just an idea, there is not such things as waterproof breathable. Any hard shell that can keep the rain out will have a hard time letting your body heat and vapors out as well. If you are using a hard shell for a static activity this might work well, however is most active endeavors you will find yourself dump inside from the sweat build-up.

A especial kind of outer layer are the insulated garments. Like their name state, these items have a form of natural or synthetic insulation, usually within a soft shell or a waterproof breathable fabric. These are great items to throw on top of all your clothing when you stop and it’s really cold outside, it helps maintain the heat your body created while you were moving.

Let’s start with pants. Like on previous layers, the outer layers can have different thickness.

Pants

Soft shell jackets are the right answer to take outside for most conditions. Except for when it’s really poring, a good soft shell jacket will protect you from the wind, snow, ice and mild rain. Again, choose the thickness according to the weather.

Jacket

The system works best when combined:

Wear a lighter mid-layer (like Patagonia’s R1) for when you are moving. Wear a soft shell on top for wind and light rain / snow protection. When you stop throw on top an insulated jacket to maintain that body heat and prevent it from escaping.

The system I usually wear when climbing or while patrolling on mountain terrain:

  • A Capilene 1 long sleeve tshirt as a base layer (or Capilene 2 for winter). I might carry an extra one on the pack.
  • An R1 Pullover as a mid-layer (or a slightly heavier fleece in winter).
  • A softshell jacket that breathes very well and keeps light rain and snow out. If I know I will be needing more rain protection then I’ll bring a hard shell jacket too (stashed on the ruck).
  • For the legs I use either nothing at all, a Capilene 1 bottoms for spring/fall or a  Capilene 3 for winter, together with a pair of soft shell pants.
  • On my pack I would bring an insulated jacket.

This system is light, breathes very well and it can be adapted to pretty much every occasion, even when armor needs to be wore on top. This system also keeps you warm or cool and it dries very quickly.

Stay safe, stay dry and stay warm!




64 comments
GageReckart
GageReckart

I love this article Uri. Saving it for reference material. What brands have you had the most success with for your outdoor rec? When I start doing outdoor stuff, I want products that won't wear on me and they do their job well. Love your articles bro, keep 'em coming!

ufridman
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 @GageReckart Thanks. Patagonia for sure, followed by Arc'teryx. I love the quality and the features that Patagonia offer. They last, the work as advertised and they do all this while using recycled materials. 

Old PH2
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned my old standby Doufold, I have used them since the '70s and absolutely swear by the combination of poly next to the skin with a wool outer layer.  Wicks, but you get the thermal advantage of the wool with out the prickly heat most seem to get.  Even my every day socks are high content wool, summer too, they help add cushion for the serious amount of walking I do.  You get accustomed to the hot feet.  The notches on my ears attest to the fact that even here in the Midwest we can get some serious weather.  

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior

 @Old PH2

 I have some duofold from 15 years ago that is still serviceable and they took lots of cold weather abuse, was way ahead of their time

katgirl231
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 @Old PH2 another great tip!  Thanks!  I've definitely heard about how cold places like Chicago and Wisconsin can get!

BrandonWebb
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Great write up Uri. -BW

McPosterdoor
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Uri you always have awesome posts. I backpack (avg 38lbs pack avg 13 miles/day avg 4 days an outing) and you're right on the money. You say the best base layer materials are synthetics (polypropylene and polyester) and I might add silk, if you've never tried it as a base it rules, I think Hillary wore it on Everest. But considering the combat circumstances wouldn't you need to worry about flame? The polys are just plastic and they'll melt to skin in a heat situation. What's your thoughts on that? I know wool is a great option, you can get very shear merino as a base and its more flame resistant. If anyone's on active duty check out, it could save you a nasty burn. ;)

BrandonWebb
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 @McPosterdoor Silk rocks and I'm personally a new fan of Massif's blended wool technology for base layers. It's inherently FR and warm when wet.  I have a wool sweater from them and it's the warmest piece of kit I've ever had. 

ufridman
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 @McPosterdoor  So true. I wore flame resistant base layers and mid layers, but they are not as good in moving moisture and keeping that ever important layer of warm air between the base layer and the skin.

It's a trade off. If you are on a vehicle and IEDs are a real, serious and immediate threat then yeah, flame resistant is a must. If you are patrolling to a recon site or a FFP and you worry about climate control, then synthetics are the way.

 

Thanks for the comments and for making valid points.

Corps Hornet Driver
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Pretty decent read here on freezing to death...

 

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/As-Freezing-Persons-Recollect-the-Snow--First-Chill--Then-Stupor--Then-the-Letting-Go.html?page=all

 

Two companies, in different countries, on different coasts, both founded by avid ice climbers, have produced some pretty good cold weather gear.   Arcteryx and Wild Things.  Arcteryx was approached by the Canadian military for developing cold weather clothing;  hence the subsidiary, Arcteryx LEAF.  Wild Things setup Wild Things Tactical and has been producing the USMC Happy Suit for a while.

 

I can't speak to any product/gear working below -15'F.

 

 

 

carlosferiv
carlosferiv

Now the great question

 

Where can we find patagonia stuff in od green?????

ufridman
ufridman

 @carlosferiv Well, some of it out of patagonia's website, but the softshell, level 3, level 4, etc stuff you need to get it via a gov. contract (I.E. if you are in the military...). Sorry

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @carlosferiv a female supply sgt I know often uses Ranger Joe's maybe there?  I worked part-time at REI once and I never saw any...I looked too.

wannabearmyteen
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In florida you do the opposite!

You want to keep the mostiure in so you can cool off.

:)

katgirl231
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 @wannabearmyteen the one time I was in FL was on a project at Eglin.  It was even in the Fall and I couldn't believe the humidity!  I asked people at Ft Walton Beach how the handled doing chores in the Summer and they told me that you get the heavy yard work done before 10am and then go inside under the air conditioning!  The local food and seafood was amazing and although it was only about two weeks, I nearly got the accent stuck.  (has to do with where I grew up.  Country and drawls can hit me and not go away)

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231  @wannabearmyteen

 I passed out on a road march at Eglin one night, remembered the feeling of floating and then looking up at my buddy asking me if I was Ok. He carried my ruck on his front, his own on his back so I could keep driving on( That was a true buddy). CO was pissed at us and had us ruckin all over that place as punishment for something. The humidity was crazy. Seemed like we could always see the airfield lights but never got any closer.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior  @wannabearmyteen Wow! Yep, I can get seriously air or seasick depending on the ride.  Diesel or exhaust fumes and a wall of hot humid air blurgh!  Because I have a lot of veins near the surface of my skin and skin color, when I get sick, I really do turn green.  People have stared and told me that.  My first real experience of a medium serious case of shock was when I got into a minor motorcycle accident (I used to ride a CM400), on a turn at a sensible speed because of a slick concrete surface with fresh dry silt, my bike went down with my right leg trapped and dragged me a bit of a way.  I couldn't get my leg free and when I tried to sit up (all this viewed from inside my helmet) I got nauseated and the next thing I remember like no time had passed was looking up at a circle of EMTs!

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231  @wannabearmyteen

 I was getting airsick on the flight down, it was an old 141 and reeked of jet fuel, just sitting there in the dark I could feel the airsick coming. For some unknown reason he started flying NOE, I was so sick I couldnt wait for the green light I just wanted out of that aircraft I think I convinced myself I was getting out one way or another, green light or not. When the blast doors opened all that hot humid Florida air came pouring in and only added to my misery, Im a cold weather person, after probably 5 or 6 miles on the ground I could feel that floating walking on air feeling.

Then bam looking up at the stars when my eyes opened. Drank some water, vomited, drank some more water had a piece of dried pineapple and a tootsie roll and it was time to get going again. My bud grabbed my ruck, slung it foward, I of course carried my weapon your never to sick for that. And we marched around in the dark all over Eglin. I was miserable that entire FTX. Dehydration, it can kill you, hot cold no matter. So I learned my lesson the hard way, drink up no matter what.

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior  @wannabearmyteen it feels funny hitting 'like' where someone gets hurt, but it refers to the content.  I couldn't believe the terrain and foliage of the firing ranges I was on.  It was Fall and the humidity was bad for me.  I've been told by my friend that Rangers helping each other like that and motivating their buddies is absolutely part of what comes out of the training.  (I guess like the buddies in BUD/S I guess).  I've had that experience twice.  One time I was out of shape leaving a bowhunting trip where we had to hike uphill for about four miles (far for someone as out of shape as I was at that point).  I let myself get dehydrated, started floating and then was jerked out of that by what seemed like every muscle in my body knotting.  I must have looked like Curly when I flipped and landed on the trail hard.  Odd thing about some hikers.  A few passed me in a nearly fetal position because of the knots and they said "Gee you must be tired" and kept going...niiice.

Logan F Crooks
Logan F Crooks

Great Article! What can you say about about SOF PCU's (The System) and Loft Layers?

katgirl231
katgirl231

Fantastic and useful article!  Saving it.  When I was younger I did a lot of backpacking above timberline and learned about the importance of layers and when to put on or shed parts depending on the activity so I didn't perspire at the wrong time and freeze.  I was never great at it since I didn't have to perform heavy work once I reached my destination.  I've wanted to try winter camping, but haven't done that yet.  One of my friends spent a lot of time and hard work in the Arctic circle while he was in 5th group and he said there was a definite way to do things if you had to go from extreme hard work to being still without getting hypothermia.  I read that one of the soldiers who didn't make it in Bravo Two Zero had made the mistake of having a heavy middle or inner Gortex layer.  When I was young I would read about how the Inuit were experts at this having for example a heavy fur outer layer which was open and would let air in and allow evaporation while moving, hunting and heavy work, but would settle into a closed position while at rest.  You people are writing about a lot of things I've always had an interest in.  Perhaps sometime an article about how and when one goes about using the layers while doing different things could be done as a part two to this piece would be really great.  Many thanks!

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231

 Kat the native parkas would be worn fur inside to add to the effectiveness of trapping air. The ruff on the parkas were polar bear, whose fur has amazing ice sheading capability as well as big hollow hair strands. The mukluks are made of Seal skin as it sheds water. As a non-native best I could do was wolverine which was very good. Goretex in extreme and Im talking below 40, the back 40, -40 to me was always a crap shoot. The sweat vapor would freeze in the gore and create an ice sheet on your back, you would have to shake it off to get the ice out. At -10 to -15 I could be comfortable and remove my overparka and fleece to do chores, dont want that sweat catching you 2 hours later! Below -15 it was a different world. Lots of things dont work when you hit those temps. Sleep??? about 5 mins at a time. Cookers dont like to burn and hands out of gloves start going grey quick. Had to put them under my underarms to warm up. The snow becomes corn snow, really sharp granules of ice. Its like a white desert the air sucks all the moisture. You have to drink as much as you do in the desert, dehydration will get you faster then hypothermia.

I have a scar on my nose from a -70 ambient air without the wind chill, and wind was howling ( It was right outside of Nome, off the Bering Sea) At one point I thought so maybe this is how it will end?, but I quickly got out of that mindset and back to biz. 3 days later me and the dogs catch a flight home, after no contact other then telling a buddy I'll catch the next flight out, which I never made, my wife was uber pissed to say the least. But other then a piece of flesh freezing and falling off I was relatively able to function, because I had the right gear, layers usually 3.

People most at risk are the joggers or day hikers go out turn an ankle, night comes, temps drop, hypothermia sets in, dehydration sets in and bam. Would see lots of hunters come up from the 48 and be a victim, Alaska doesnt fuck around, she will take your life if you play the fool. Even had it happen to a SOCOM unit I wont mention out of respect, came up to train in the Chugach Mtns, a cold spell moved in and the AKNG had to go medevac them out with afew guys suffering severe weather injuries.

The cold should be treated just like the heat, never underestimate ma nature, shes a bitch when she wants to be so respect her and be prepared!

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior That's the stuff I'm talkin' about! (again)  I loved reading about that growing up and am totally amazed at what the and for that matter that group which guarded the Aleutians!

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior ...and nerdy enough to extract the tracks from a video, convert to mp3 and then upload to your domain :P

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231

 Kat hows this for nerdy, I have the Aliens Motion Scanner ping as my ringtone

ArcticWarrior
ArcticWarrior

 @katgirl231

 I thought of that everytime I went up the Eklutna or Matanuska Glaciers!!!! Everytime!!!

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @Old PH2  @ArcticWarrior I told you Chuck Jones cartoons had an effect on me!  I was always having to do something myself to see what "it" whatever it might be was like.  More later.

Old PH2
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 @katgirl231  @ArcticWarrior  Made me laugh, I thought I was the only one around here foolish enough to jump into glacier fed water.  Jumped off a 40ft. boulder into Lake Tahoe on a nice May afternoon.  All I can say is my two buddies had a great laugh, and I was lucky to get out of the lake alive. 

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior that movie and the idea of digging up ancient stuff in the Arctic or Antarctic still gives me the chills a little!

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior Dead on!  John W. Campbell wrote it (Who Goes There) and this link is a great description (he was the editor of Analog magazine for many years).  Just like Matheson's book "I Am Legend" inspired so many later movies and possibly be one of the main causes of the Zombie genre, I absolutely believe that the way in which the director created suspense and even the environment heavily influenced Ridley Scott in Alien.  Dark and maze like tunnels and the use of the Geiger Counters to show the thing approaching and sometimes just passing by was genius and there's no doubt in my mind that it's where the motion detectors in Alien/Aliens came from.  I first saw it on TV when I was about in 2nd grade and that movie scared me into the next century!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Goes_There%3F

 

this page isn't finished - just showing some of my early reads and movies which influenced my interests at least a little:

http://twolftfeet.com/books.html#thing

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231

 I would have loved to go to Antarctica.

 

The Thing rules- All 3 of them. The first one takes place in 1951 at the North Pole via Anchorage and had some great scemes of the city circa 1951. I think its from a book from the 1930's???

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior gee - this reminds me of the movies "The Thing" (both of them), "Insomnia" (2002), and "30 Days of Night" wow.  I've had one friend who worked at Thule and he told me about the rope between buildings so you wouldn't get lost during whiteout and a slightly eccentric guy I worked with who loved working in Antarctica for the Nat'l Geophysical Year that he went twice in a row and was trying to get back again!  Whew!

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231

 Like a million needles, frostbite sucks. I luckily was fairly adapted to the cold and could work without gloves until about zero, but when I got cold I would get that burning like a foot that fell asleep pins and needles, thats your extremeties warming back up. I never got hypothermic I was always real careful about my layering and staying dry. One time middle of nowhere, white as far as the eye could see, found a twenty dollar bill blowing in the breeze!

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior Dear gosh!  Supercooled water, wind, sloppy ocean etc etc it's incomprehensible even knowing about dry-suits etc (guess what? I was LA Co and NAUI certified at one time too <grin>).  The closest I've ever experienced anything like that taught me to avoid cold water at all costs.  One time backpacking in college above timberline (~12,000 ft) - I had the brilliant idea (pretty much like jumping off a friend's roof with an umbrella in 6th grade) of jumping in a stream next to and fed directly by a glacier (not even sub-freezing sea water).  I jumped in - and I honestly think that I teleported instantly back to the shore - all I remember is that feeling of all those knives sticking in me!

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231

 We had O company/75th based out of Ft Rich, they made jumps out on the frozen Arctic Sea towards the N Pole and lots of crazy things like that before they left for the lower 48 in the early 70s

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior off topic sort of but having grown up in SoCal, you know how we are...68deg and you're putting on sweaters :)  The coldest I've spent outdoors was a bowhunting trip but that was only 20deg.  I do know how much healing from frostbite hurts, but it had nothing to do with WX.  As a student, I worked a lot with cryogenics  (that's how you do fractional distillations of Boron chemistry, a glass vacuum line with 'U' shaped tubes and you put Dewars under each with different frozen concoctions and trap everything before it gets to the mercury vapor pump with LN2.  LN2 is easy to work with.  Everything was not too unsafe, but liquid Freon with Freon ice is murder.   You have to keep breaking the ice that forms on the top of the Dewar flask around the vacuum line w/o breaking anything.  I'd use a wood dowel.  One day a chunk of Freon ice flies out and lands on my arm.  Nothing you can do, instant frostbite.  Hurt like the Dickens and it might have dissolved into my skin so I had to get a little tumor like thing removed later. owww.  When I would have a lab explosion, I was the one who had to clean up something like a liter of mercury off the benches and floor - which may explain a few things <boing cuckoo> oops way off subject.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior some stories I've heard about operating in those conditions came from a friend I had about 15 yrs ago, an RVN CSAR guy who later worked training soldiers in survival in the arctic.  The others I heard were a few from my 5th group friend while he was stationed up there.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior haha - I totally understand that.  I'm going to find a good book about the ALCAN, there was a documentary about them on either Discovery or the Military Channel - and yes.  It is really sad when stories like those aren't written until it's too late.

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231

 Yeah most people didnt know Alaska was invaded by the Japanese, who held land for awhile. The whole reason the ALCAN had to be built quickly. Some of those guys had great stories, sadly most of them have passed, and Kat the Scouts had women but Im not bringing that up in the other post.

Corps Hornet Driver
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 @ArcticWarrior

Go stuff AW!

 

Having spent time fair amount of time in the Brooks and a few other locations, I learned a minor CONUS injury can quickly become life threatening AK. 

 

And I never go anywhere in AK with gear suitable for spending a unexpected very cold night out-of-doors.

 

I have not had the pleasure of experiencing so cold my burner wouldn't light off.

 

Spent some time on a reindeer ranch in the Arctic Circle.  Sleeping under and against fur was a new experience, still not forgotten some 20 years later!

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior  @Corps Hornet Driver I read his old book and it was always one of my favorites!!!!  Taught me I never want to get carbon monoxide poisoning for sure!  That is really great about having a small business who knows their stuff making that!  I knew a guy who used to go Moose hunting up in Canada all the time and having to cut through BC thick stuff for miles to pack back a ton of dressed out moose.  He relied on a primitive home made pack frame (wood staples and canvas webbing with a 1x1 or slightly larger on the bottom like the "L" on an Alice pack).  I tried it and it was amazing for carrying heavy loads.  By the time I found and contacted the family in Canada, he had passed away and they had parts but not the knowledge of putting it together - what a shame!

 

I will absolutely check out those books.  A funny.  A few weeks ago I happened to talk to a lady while window shopping in our small town.  She's a CAP pilot and absolutely swore that I was Aleut.  I told her I couldn't be, I couldn't survive that cold! :)

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231  @Corps Hornet Driver

 Kat you could read  With Byrd at the Bottom of the World: The South Pole Expedition of 1928–1930 By Col Norman Vaughan. Col Vaughan was quite the charachter, I got to know him fairly well in the years before he passed.

And Will Stegers- Over the Top of the World, Crossing Antarctica, North to the Pole.

My gear was custom made by a great lady named Deborah Ives in Anchorage, she owns a company called Posh House. All she did was make expedition quality stuff, nothing mass produced came close, it was custom from start to finish.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior  @Corps Hornet Driver I read lots of stuff about people in truly cold places - amazing.  I haven't read the whole story of the fellow who wrote a journal while something started a chain of events which led to his death, but that's on my list.

ArcticWarrior
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 @Corps Hornet Driver

 Did get to see any Musk Oxen??? There fur has loft that is amazing, expensive but lofty. Thats the tag to get. They live on open Tundra so you would have to low crawl and stalk as close as possible and take a mid range shot at best, they spook real easy.

We normally used Heet gas line anti-freeze as fuel. The containers are the right size and it ignites fairly easy. When it gets so cold o-rings and mechanical parts dont like to work. You can carry a small coffee can with a few holes and dump the heat in and ignite for heat for water etc but it wont last all that long.

Like the article says layers, and when you can get out of anything damp and let the air suck the moisture out. During rainy season ( the summer) bring extra socks.

But yeah in Alaska your are so far from anything a small injury can spiral quickly especially in a place like Brooks Range. Weather can change 180 in an hour. For all the beauty She doesnt take well to those not prepared Air Guard is very busy up there doing SAR. (Search and Recovery)

jrexilius
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 @ArcticWarrior  @katgirl231  holy shit, your screen name is appropriate.

 

I find it a great head check that man and technology have yet to come up with materials that can compete with mother nature's own in extreme conditions.

 

 

ArcticWarrior
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 @katgirl231  @jrexilius

 Wool is great still, I never liked the funky smell it gets when wet, its like well a wet animal. I love wool/synthetic sock blends. We keep trying with science but Mother Nature still knows best

katgirl231
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 @ArcticWarrior  @jrexilius in not-too-cold wet environments like maybe Seattle area I hear for bowhunters that wool is still hard to beat and doesn't make a "zipp" noise when passing by branches.

katgirl231
katgirl231

 @ArcticWarrior  @jrexilius Great!!! Wow! I am seriously impressed (even that you can live there comfortably). "I alwayws pestered the old retired Eskimo Scout guys for tips."  That is EXACTLY the kind of thing I'd do.  I read that real Wolf fur around the hood is also one of the few which holds heat and doesn't collect frost from your breath.

ArcticWarrior
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 @jrexilius  @katgirl231

 Yeah for all our tech a lot of the natural stuff still rules the wasteland. I had a modern over parka but I had it cut native style, shaped like a bell to help trap heat. The ruff on my hood was wolverine which you fold in to trap heat  Had beaver  overmittens but rarely wore them they were too warm and too nice too look at! The issue stuff from Uncle Sam not so good! I alwayws pestered the old retired Eskimo Scout guys for tips. Alaska is big and beautiful but she wont balk at taking the lives of the stupid. The Iditarod Trail went through our property ; )

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